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hyojungssthe thing i like about mbti is it forces you to think a little more critically about how people work and if it would be realistic for them to approach a situation a certain way? mbti is about behavior (enneagram is more about motivation i think) and so as a writer, it makes me more precise when characterizing. i think there is a lot of gray area of course (you can see elements of any function in anyone tbh), but it's a very useful structure for me. love to put people in boxes!
disclaimer that i only started looking into non si functions a few months ago so i am in no way claiming these are the best types for each of them, this is just a breakdown of the consensus because as an istj i need to constantly write down and then read others' + my thoughts to do any processing.
function stack order goes: dominant, auxiliary, tertiary, inferior, with the first function being the strongest. the last function is the weak spot so to speak.
Personality Database consensus: ENFJ / ISFP
those two types share the Se-Ni pair but enfj is Fe-dom and isfp is Fi-dom. the discussion is about whether he's really Fe-dom or if that's a persona he adopted because of his leadership position. that is a fair question because he has talked a lot about how he never felt cut out to be a leader. coups is the type of person who isn't naturally the best at understanding and connecting with other people - he was jealous that the members were more comfortable going to jeonghan to talk about personal problems. but it's really confusing because Fi users can value Fe. likes attention but is actually really shy. big shrug...
to be fair i can't really think of instances where coups has clearly thought of himself first, or stuck with his own values in compromise of the group's.
Personality Database consensus: ISFJ / ESFJ
those types swap function orders so it's SiFe vs FeSi. jeonghan's Fe is so strong, he knows how other people work SO well. including how to push their buttons and get them to do things for him. INCLUDING how to navigate the emotions of children (sua suji). i hate to type on stereotypes but he fits the kind caring isfj role so well. jeonghan is definitely socially introverted compared to other members, his social circle is very limited wrt celebrity friends (...hyungwon?) and he has this one really close friend from school days who owns a cow farm. scoups said that jeonghan talks about svt like they're all he has. he's such a loyal person. (he also has very specific conditions required for sleep but idk if that's Si as much as it is physical sensitivity lol... jun said jeonghan isn't good with new foods either)
something else you could use to type him is which function is his inferior (Ne or Ti respectively) but... help i don't know. i really dont know about Ti but for Ne, he's better at improvising ideas for wordplay than he is at ideas for cooking (tourism livestream with vernon begged for help) or dancing (had no ideas after flopping at memorizing the actual choreo).
anyway, jeonghan is a really private person in some ways (thinking of how he protected his sister's name) and he is pretty clearly a social introvert so it feels weird to say that he's esfj but i don't really know if his Si is that strong. so in conclusion i've never had an original thought in my life
Personality Database consensus: ISFJ
tbh i never would have guessed this but it makes sense - josh needs his room to be as tidy as a hotel in order to feel relaxed, that sounds like Si. his favorite furniture in his room is his "storage boxes and locker". but it's like Si doms aren't the only people on earth who like to be organized.... i definitely do not feel like his Fe is as strong as jeonghan's. and really i can't tell because he's very hard to read? he doesn't talk a lot at all. he's definitely not one of the members who's good at improvising though and ruling things out is almost as helpful as honing in on one. josh is very quiet and tends to say very generic things LOL but tbh some of his funniest moments are humor based on someone else being mean to him (eg. who are you to judge my art [walks out of the room], yoon jeonghan you're over [throat slice]). that and his weird dancing and i have no idea if that even corresponds to any function.
any member can be sentimental but i think it is worth pointing out that joshua still clings to his trainee memories (ie. brought it up as recently as carnival) with jeonghan because they helped each other through such a tough part of their life. and he makes bead bracelets to give to people... not just members but golcha bomin as well.... well... i don't think he's Te aux either because he doesn't exactly have a drive to be productive. in the absence of any other argument i believe everyone who says isfj
Personality Database consensus: INFP / ENFP
this is a debate between FiNe and NeFi, Ne being jun's randomness and weird ideas basically LOL... / being in his own world thing. i agree that it's difficult to tell because of language barrier/shyness and the fact that u can't even base it solely on social extroversion just makes it harder. i do think that svt has been really supportive of jun lately and it makes him more willing to contribute (eg. gose today, no one ever made fun of him for his ideas and dk called him ace a million times). he still has a lot of quiet moments depending on how much he can contribute. and he doesn't like it when everyone looks at him at once because it's too much pressure (BUDAM). whereas in cyzj he talked everyone's heads off, he feeds off interactions with his large social network. i think without knowing what exactly is going thru his mind it's harder to be more specific than xnfp. you can see Si tho in that jun is obsessed with the idea of bringing the members to shenzhen AND SHOWING THEM AROUND THE PLACES HE LIVED. minghao isn't like this even though he's in the same position. (joshua and vernon have had this opportunity multiple times.) he stays in the hotel to play games and makes vlogs about random kitchen appliances he bought on the internet (crying emoji) also jun is really thoughtful about complimenting other people and his memories with them which also gives me Si vibes. er.... there's also the cyzj incident where he gave up his spot because he didn't want to take someone else's without yanan... and then he had to apologize profusely to his fans who were right there lol.... the Fi of it all...?
Personality Database consensus: ENFP / INFP
a lot like jun's position - chaotic ideas, personal feelings, but i like enfp for him specifically because of the tertiary Te, the best example being his strict training. he's the type that never likes to be sitting down and doing nothing, he's always in the studio either dancing or making music, and is a perfectionist about those things. idk tho bc he's convinced he's an introvert and well, you can see how he struggles on his own either on variety (radio star) or the behind the scenes videos of spider. but uhh i think he's a social extrovert (jeonghan: "we can't visit every member's solo shoots but we knew hoshi would like it if we came"). he has a lot of love in his heart. hoshi also gets a lot of inspiration for his choreo from the world around him but Se isn't in his stack so idk
Personality Database consensus: INTP
no original thoughts here but: Ti because he has a thirst for knowledge/is always reading books and Ne because he has stream-of-consciousness humor, has many thoughts + won't act on them ("dreamer" nickname). also he writes poems but idk what that has to do with any of this. maybe it's the abstractness of Ne? Fe inferior... (it makes him such a fun character to write bc he has a harder time understanding other people's emotions)
once posted on weverse questioning youtube's recommendation algorithm.
Personality Database consensus: INTJ
i can't defend this one because i dont know what Ni doms look like :( based on the coups one... people were saying coups' Ni manifests in how he has a singular vision for the group's success and i guess i could see that for wz. wz seems like the kind of guy that knows what he wants and really works hard to get there? and i can also see the Ni idea of facts are just there so you can interpret them abstractly. can see Te aux.... again someone who is always working. always working. i do not see him as an Fe user at all so there's that, Fi makes sense. he is the one that said seventeen is his happy space. Se inferior though....? how does that manifest? i wonder if there's more room to look at his lyrics
he has no patience for affection but he does get satisfied when he can make good jokes. he is blunt at times, but he is too shy to praise himself.
Personality Database consensus: ISFP / ISTP
so either Fi dom or Ti dom, with Se aux. i really dont know either function well enough to say but he's constantly reflecting on himself and his health, meditating, reading books and watching movies, expressing himself through various forms of art, and focused on developing healthy relationships with others. he SOUNDS more like an Fi user - someone who is evaluating what is important to him and what kind of life he wants to live. i'm just really confused because people are like 'i don't see any Fi in him' but i do not understand where his Ti is LOL i think he is a lot more concerned about personal values than about understanding the world. think about the whole coming into his own arc he had in 2017 after the ramen head cute image died? also think about his strong ideals about respect and admiration for others, cyzj mess #1, and the life advice he gives carats
also isfp is Te inf which i think makes more sense than Fe inf... minghao is not bad at understanding other people's emotions i just think his are more central to who he is. wonder if u can call Te the way he tells people to hurry up sometimes, you know, the [dk: what if i die? / mh: then you die!] and the mingyu minghao ofd fight over the fire starter and the ttt 2019 "guys it's not that hard". also for what its worth he is part of svt's logical line he was really good on the gose sbs episode
"your habit that you want to correct?" xmh: "i've corrected all that need correction."
Personality Database consensus: ESFJ
FE DOM. someone who is always trying to make other people happy. someone who feeds off of being loved and being around others. huge list of friends. he is always doing things for other people, ACTS OF SERVICE. i think that's one of the things that screams esfj to me-- Fe dom cares a lot about what other people think of them and get validation that way. once you settle on Fe dom it's either Si or Ni aux. idk that i can clearly identify his Si but he does fit the esfj stereotype?
really good point about how he is actually very smart lol like winning brain survival and working really hard with ww during escape room while jeonghan and dk played games with the wheelbarrow. i think this is also just mingyu putting his all into everything he does ?! which sounds like it could be Te but well he also is super artsy like minghao but he doesn't have Se in the stack. i don't know.
anyway mingyu is the guy who always talked about how he was never stressed out and basically implied that he has perfect mental health. that was before the thing blew up though so i just hope that he's not traumatized (being that the claims were largely disproved, de-escalated or settled).
Personality Database consensus: ESFP
SeFi. unfortunately i can't identify Se very well and there are no examples in the comments T___T i will go with this for now
also shy and one of the kindest people that the kindest members of svt know, which says a lot. but very talkative, always willing to throw out ideas and make jokes. he can get embarrassed about saying something that sounds silly but he typically says it first and then feels that way LOL. also sort of naive and very trusting? and very scared of things and very emotional as well.
this doesnt have to do with anything but i just want to share this here: (thinking about how even tho jun didn't contribute to his gose sbs team just like dk didn't, when dk asked jun to volunteer to get kicked jun was like "GIVE ME A REASON" and dk was too nice to tell him he was useless so he said "ok nvm i dont want to pick") tbh i think he is really afraid of hurting other people and probably empathized too hard with jun. he is really considerate of others' feelings but he is very sensitive, which is why i think people say he has Fi. he also had the catchphrase "you can just ignore me" because lack of confidence.
dk posting on weverse about all the mbti tests he took ("because it was fun") and not believing any of them (because theyre probably awful tests) made me so sad like i hope you can find a good function based test but seeing as 90% of english speakers cant i sort of have my doubts :(
Personality Database consensus: ESFP / ESFJ
SeFi or FeSi. this is really interesting to me, i can see the argument for having tertiary Ne because he is so good at variety (and freestyle rap?!) but also i like what someone said about Fi being him getting salty when people don't agree with him or pay attention to him askljdlf... i dont know if thats actually a thing though. i think u could also say that the we remember kpop vlives are indicative of strong Si like he really won't let go of the past. he's also very particular about the details when it comes to paying people tribute. looking up vs posts and a lot of people said that esfjs put focus on social hierarchy. idk if seungkwan cares about that besides never letting dino pretend theyre on the same level, but he is very good at navigating the system, i think? you can see he's very respectful of his seniors. seungkwan has always been one of the biggest supporters of "pledis family", back when pristin was still around he was one of the ones that mentioned them the most and suggested having a pledis family concert </3 seungkwan is a nagger he likes to tell people what to do (take their vitamins) but that's because he cares about them. he is a really emotional person in general lol and has a short temper.
also Si: "these days, there are times we both realize the other is all grown up, and other times when we feel 'oh we're still kids', it's complicated. vernon's a friend with whom i share so many memories, to the point that when i look at him i think of all the moments i long for."
reading this it looks like i agree with esfj but just note that i don't really know how Se doms work... it sounds like Se doms are more spontaneous and love to be Doing things. tbh he is so different from likely isfp minghao that i'm like uhhh..... but then there's possible isfp seungcheol up there and i'm even more uhhh.....
Personality Database consensus: ISFP
thank you to vernon's mom for fixing his terrible mistype lol i'm glad he knows his own type for real and not for 16p
i think the comments explain this really well but just to summarize, he's someone that does things his own way; "easygoing"; lives in the moment; really quiet in variety but has a strong stage presence and ability to communicate his feelings through his lyrics. i feel like he does hold his personal values above all (Fi). i don't think he cares very much about results, he has to be one of the least competitive members in this group. also think his fashion is very expressive. artist who is the child of artists... yeaaaah (Se)
he's also talked about being particular about saying "i love you" and that he doesn't want it to be used lightly, and tries to be a positive influence on fans (past mixtapes, lyrics) so i do think he thinks deeply about things
plus it would make so much sense for vernon and minghao to be the same type..... their exact hobbies are different but they spend a lot of time with each other and have since the very beginning
Personality Database consensus: ExxJ
Help. no one agrees on his type. so probably either he's an Fe dom or a Te dom. looks like there's no real evidence of Ni aux so ESFJ / ESTJ. but i am so curious why people dont think he's Se dom... i dont think he's Fe dom i think he would be more social if he was and he's not the type to solve other people's emotional problems.
he's very very focused on performance and results, determined to show he is capable of holding responsibility and wanting to be treated with respect? tbh he sounds a lot like estj description. "driven" above all else. as someone who grew up in hierarchy (at the bottom of svt's age order with no same-age or younger members, and oldest of the family) he really internalized the ideas of responsibility and always looks for opportunities to prove himself (ofd 2 skiing episode) u can see how hard he works at danceology and svt choreo in general. and he doesn't have the crazy ideas that hoshi has that would point to Ne dom. i dont even necessarily see Si aux other than how much he cares about hierarchy (and maybe his attention to detail idk) but pleaseee do not ask me to explain what Ni aux actually looks like i simply do not know, but no one else sees it in him.
he's very defensive and always ready to clap back with a defense lmao this guy cannot be a Fe dom right.... he's so blunt. it makes sense for him to have Fi because he has to try so hard to suppress his own wishes and it's pretty obvious when he's unhappy about something (dino nugu aegi). but also his nickname is kpop's future.... i dont know if he's always looking at the past (Si) that seems out of character. but he does write these insanely long emotional messages in the group chat idk why he does that
lee chan, 2015: "i'm doing a good job with choreography, woozi hyung is doing a good job with producing and scoups is doing a good job with whatever it is that he does"
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disclaimer that i only started looking into non si functions a few months ago so i am in no way claiming these are the best types for each of them, this is just a breakdown of the consensus because as an istj i need to constantly write down and then read others' + my thoughts to do any processing.
LIST OF FUNCTION STACKS
Fi Se Ni Te (ISFP)
Fi Ne Si Te (INFP)
Ti Ne Si Fe (INTP)
Ti Se Ni Fe (ISTP)
Ni Fe Ti Se (INFJ)
Ni Te Fi Se (INTJ)
Si Fe Ti Ne (ISFJ)
Si Te Fi Ne (ISTJ)
Fe Ni Se Ti (ENFJ)
Fe Si Ne Ti (ESFJ)
Te Ni Se Fi (ENTJ)
Te Si Ne Fi (ESTJ)
Ne Fi Te Si (ENFP)
Ne Ti Fe Si (ENTP)
Se Fi Te Ni (ESFP)
Se Ti Fe Ni (ESTP)
Fi Ne Si Te (INFP)
Ti Ne Si Fe (INTP)
Ti Se Ni Fe (ISTP)
Ni Fe Ti Se (INFJ)
Ni Te Fi Se (INTJ)
Si Fe Ti Ne (ISFJ)
Si Te Fi Ne (ISTJ)
Fe Ni Se Ti (ENFJ)
Fe Si Ne Ti (ESFJ)
Te Ni Se Fi (ENTJ)
Te Si Ne Fi (ESTJ)
Ne Fi Te Si (ENFP)
Ne Ti Fe Si (ENTP)
Se Fi Te Ni (ESFP)
Se Ti Fe Ni (ESTP)
function stack order goes: dominant, auxiliary, tertiary, inferior, with the first function being the strongest. the last function is the weak spot so to speak.
FUNCTION DESCRIPTIONS
Fi: introverted feeling - reliance on internal, instinctual moral codes and values
Ti: introverted thinking - inner drive for knowledge, used to develop logical decision making processes
Ni: introverted intuition - subconscious & big-picture processing of the world, future-oriented vision
Si: introverted sensing - storing of details and feelings for later use, prioritizing the past
Fe: extroverted feeling - recognition of and focus on other people's emotions
Te: extroverted thinking - use of external information to make decisions and work efficiently
Ne: extroverted intuition - generating all the different possibilities, using one as a connection point to get to the next
Se: extroverted sensing - taking in all the different experiences using all senses and living in the moment
S.COUPS
Personality Database consensus: ENFJ / ISFP
those two types share the Se-Ni pair but enfj is Fe-dom and isfp is Fi-dom. the discussion is about whether he's really Fe-dom or if that's a persona he adopted because of his leadership position. that is a fair question because he has talked a lot about how he never felt cut out to be a leader. coups is the type of person who isn't naturally the best at understanding and connecting with other people - he was jealous that the members were more comfortable going to jeonghan to talk about personal problems. but it's really confusing because Fi users can value Fe. likes attention but is actually really shy. big shrug...
to be fair i can't really think of instances where coups has clearly thought of himself first, or stuck with his own values in compromise of the group's.
JEONGHAN
Personality Database consensus: ISFJ / ESFJ
those types swap function orders so it's SiFe vs FeSi. jeonghan's Fe is so strong, he knows how other people work SO well. including how to push their buttons and get them to do things for him. INCLUDING how to navigate the emotions of children (sua suji). i hate to type on stereotypes but he fits the kind caring isfj role so well. jeonghan is definitely socially introverted compared to other members, his social circle is very limited wrt celebrity friends (...hyungwon?) and he has this one really close friend from school days who owns a cow farm. scoups said that jeonghan talks about svt like they're all he has. he's such a loyal person. (he also has very specific conditions required for sleep but idk if that's Si as much as it is physical sensitivity lol... jun said jeonghan isn't good with new foods either)
something else you could use to type him is which function is his inferior (Ne or Ti respectively) but... help i don't know. i really dont know about Ti but for Ne, he's better at improvising ideas for wordplay than he is at ideas for cooking (tourism livestream with vernon begged for help) or dancing (had no ideas after flopping at memorizing the actual choreo).
anyway, jeonghan is a really private person in some ways (thinking of how he protected his sister's name) and he is pretty clearly a social introvert so it feels weird to say that he's esfj but i don't really know if his Si is that strong. so in conclusion i've never had an original thought in my life
JOSHUA
Personality Database consensus: ISFJ
tbh i never would have guessed this but it makes sense - josh needs his room to be as tidy as a hotel in order to feel relaxed, that sounds like Si. his favorite furniture in his room is his "storage boxes and locker". but it's like Si doms aren't the only people on earth who like to be organized.... i definitely do not feel like his Fe is as strong as jeonghan's. and really i can't tell because he's very hard to read? he doesn't talk a lot at all. he's definitely not one of the members who's good at improvising though and ruling things out is almost as helpful as honing in on one. josh is very quiet and tends to say very generic things LOL but tbh some of his funniest moments are humor based on someone else being mean to him (eg. who are you to judge my art [walks out of the room], yoon jeonghan you're over [throat slice]). that and his weird dancing and i have no idea if that even corresponds to any function.
any member can be sentimental but i think it is worth pointing out that joshua still clings to his trainee memories (ie. brought it up as recently as carnival) with jeonghan because they helped each other through such a tough part of their life. and he makes bead bracelets to give to people... not just members but golcha bomin as well.... well... i don't think he's Te aux either because he doesn't exactly have a drive to be productive. in the absence of any other argument i believe everyone who says isfj
JUN
Personality Database consensus: INFP / ENFP
this is a debate between FiNe and NeFi, Ne being jun's randomness and weird ideas basically LOL... / being in his own world thing. i agree that it's difficult to tell because of language barrier/shyness and the fact that u can't even base it solely on social extroversion just makes it harder. i do think that svt has been really supportive of jun lately and it makes him more willing to contribute (eg. gose today, no one ever made fun of him for his ideas and dk called him ace a million times). he still has a lot of quiet moments depending on how much he can contribute. and he doesn't like it when everyone looks at him at once because it's too much pressure (BUDAM). whereas in cyzj he talked everyone's heads off, he feeds off interactions with his large social network. i think without knowing what exactly is going thru his mind it's harder to be more specific than xnfp. you can see Si tho in that jun is obsessed with the idea of bringing the members to shenzhen AND SHOWING THEM AROUND THE PLACES HE LIVED. minghao isn't like this even though he's in the same position. (joshua and vernon have had this opportunity multiple times.) he stays in the hotel to play games and makes vlogs about random kitchen appliances he bought on the internet (crying emoji) also jun is really thoughtful about complimenting other people and his memories with them which also gives me Si vibes. er.... there's also the cyzj incident where he gave up his spot because he didn't want to take someone else's without yanan... and then he had to apologize profusely to his fans who were right there lol.... the Fi of it all...?
minghao: "once i asked jun why he keeps joking around. he said cause it's hard to show with words. it doesn't matter if they like his joke or not, he just wants to express his affection towards that person."
HOSHI
Personality Database consensus: ENFP / INFP
a lot like jun's position - chaotic ideas, personal feelings, but i like enfp for him specifically because of the tertiary Te, the best example being his strict training. he's the type that never likes to be sitting down and doing nothing, he's always in the studio either dancing or making music, and is a perfectionist about those things. idk tho bc he's convinced he's an introvert and well, you can see how he struggles on his own either on variety (radio star) or the behind the scenes videos of spider. but uhh i think he's a social extrovert (jeonghan: "we can't visit every member's solo shoots but we knew hoshi would like it if we came"). he has a lot of love in his heart. hoshi also gets a lot of inspiration for his choreo from the world around him but Se isn't in his stack so idk
WONWOO
Personality Database consensus: INTP
no original thoughts here but: Ti because he has a thirst for knowledge/is always reading books and Ne because he has stream-of-consciousness humor, has many thoughts + won't act on them ("dreamer" nickname). also he writes poems but idk what that has to do with any of this. maybe it's the abstractness of Ne? Fe inferior... (it makes him such a fun character to write bc he has a harder time understanding other people's emotions)
once posted on weverse questioning youtube's recommendation algorithm.
WOOZI
Personality Database consensus: INTJ
i can't defend this one because i dont know what Ni doms look like :( based on the coups one... people were saying coups' Ni manifests in how he has a singular vision for the group's success and i guess i could see that for wz. wz seems like the kind of guy that knows what he wants and really works hard to get there? and i can also see the Ni idea of facts are just there so you can interpret them abstractly. can see Te aux.... again someone who is always working. always working. i do not see him as an Fe user at all so there's that, Fi makes sense. he is the one that said seventeen is his happy space. Se inferior though....? how does that manifest? i wonder if there's more room to look at his lyrics
he has no patience for affection but he does get satisfied when he can make good jokes. he is blunt at times, but he is too shy to praise himself.
THE8
Personality Database consensus: ISFP / ISTP
so either Fi dom or Ti dom, with Se aux. i really dont know either function well enough to say but he's constantly reflecting on himself and his health, meditating, reading books and watching movies, expressing himself through various forms of art, and focused on developing healthy relationships with others. he SOUNDS more like an Fi user - someone who is evaluating what is important to him and what kind of life he wants to live. i'm just really confused because people are like 'i don't see any Fi in him' but i do not understand where his Ti is LOL i think he is a lot more concerned about personal values than about understanding the world. think about the whole coming into his own arc he had in 2017 after the ramen head cute image died? also think about his strong ideals about respect and admiration for others, cyzj mess #1, and the life advice he gives carats
also isfp is Te inf which i think makes more sense than Fe inf... minghao is not bad at understanding other people's emotions i just think his are more central to who he is. wonder if u can call Te the way he tells people to hurry up sometimes, you know, the [dk: what if i die? / mh: then you die!] and the mingyu minghao ofd fight over the fire starter and the ttt 2019 "guys it's not that hard". also for what its worth he is part of svt's logical line he was really good on the gose sbs episode
"your habit that you want to correct?" xmh: "i've corrected all that need correction."
MINGYU
Personality Database consensus: ESFJ
FE DOM. someone who is always trying to make other people happy. someone who feeds off of being loved and being around others. huge list of friends. he is always doing things for other people, ACTS OF SERVICE. i think that's one of the things that screams esfj to me-- Fe dom cares a lot about what other people think of them and get validation that way. once you settle on Fe dom it's either Si or Ni aux. idk that i can clearly identify his Si but he does fit the esfj stereotype?
really good point about how he is actually very smart lol like winning brain survival and working really hard with ww during escape room while jeonghan and dk played games with the wheelbarrow. i think this is also just mingyu putting his all into everything he does ?! which sounds like it could be Te but well he also is super artsy like minghao but he doesn't have Se in the stack. i don't know.
anyway mingyu is the guy who always talked about how he was never stressed out and basically implied that he has perfect mental health. that was before the thing blew up though so i just hope that he's not traumatized (being that the claims were largely disproved, de-escalated or settled).
DK
Personality Database consensus: ESFP
SeFi. unfortunately i can't identify Se very well and there are no examples in the comments T___T i will go with this for now
also shy and one of the kindest people that the kindest members of svt know, which says a lot. but very talkative, always willing to throw out ideas and make jokes. he can get embarrassed about saying something that sounds silly but he typically says it first and then feels that way LOL. also sort of naive and very trusting? and very scared of things and very emotional as well.
this doesnt have to do with anything but i just want to share this here: (thinking about how even tho jun didn't contribute to his gose sbs team just like dk didn't, when dk asked jun to volunteer to get kicked jun was like "GIVE ME A REASON" and dk was too nice to tell him he was useless so he said "ok nvm i dont want to pick") tbh i think he is really afraid of hurting other people and probably empathized too hard with jun. he is really considerate of others' feelings but he is very sensitive, which is why i think people say he has Fi. he also had the catchphrase "you can just ignore me" because lack of confidence.
dk posting on weverse about all the mbti tests he took ("because it was fun") and not believing any of them (because theyre probably awful tests) made me so sad like i hope you can find a good function based test but seeing as 90% of english speakers cant i sort of have my doubts :(
SEUNGKWAN
Personality Database consensus: ESFP / ESFJ
SeFi or FeSi. this is really interesting to me, i can see the argument for having tertiary Ne because he is so good at variety (and freestyle rap?!) but also i like what someone said about Fi being him getting salty when people don't agree with him or pay attention to him askljdlf... i dont know if thats actually a thing though. i think u could also say that the we remember kpop vlives are indicative of strong Si like he really won't let go of the past. he's also very particular about the details when it comes to paying people tribute. looking up vs posts and a lot of people said that esfjs put focus on social hierarchy. idk if seungkwan cares about that besides never letting dino pretend theyre on the same level, but he is very good at navigating the system, i think? you can see he's very respectful of his seniors. seungkwan has always been one of the biggest supporters of "pledis family", back when pristin was still around he was one of the ones that mentioned them the most and suggested having a pledis family concert </3 seungkwan is a nagger he likes to tell people what to do (take their vitamins) but that's because he cares about them. he is a really emotional person in general lol and has a short temper.
also Si: "these days, there are times we both realize the other is all grown up, and other times when we feel 'oh we're still kids', it's complicated. vernon's a friend with whom i share so many memories, to the point that when i look at him i think of all the moments i long for."
reading this it looks like i agree with esfj but just note that i don't really know how Se doms work... it sounds like Se doms are more spontaneous and love to be Doing things. tbh he is so different from likely isfp minghao that i'm like uhhh..... but then there's possible isfp seungcheol up there and i'm even more uhhh.....
VERNON
Personality Database consensus: ISFP
thank you to vernon's mom for fixing his terrible mistype lol i'm glad he knows his own type for real and not for 16p
i think the comments explain this really well but just to summarize, he's someone that does things his own way; "easygoing"; lives in the moment; really quiet in variety but has a strong stage presence and ability to communicate his feelings through his lyrics. i feel like he does hold his personal values above all (Fi). i don't think he cares very much about results, he has to be one of the least competitive members in this group. also think his fashion is very expressive. artist who is the child of artists... yeaaaah (Se)
he's also talked about being particular about saying "i love you" and that he doesn't want it to be used lightly, and tries to be a positive influence on fans (past mixtapes, lyrics) so i do think he thinks deeply about things
plus it would make so much sense for vernon and minghao to be the same type..... their exact hobbies are different but they spend a lot of time with each other and have since the very beginning
DINO
Personality Database consensus: ExxJ
Help. no one agrees on his type. so probably either he's an Fe dom or a Te dom. looks like there's no real evidence of Ni aux so ESFJ / ESTJ. but i am so curious why people dont think he's Se dom... i dont think he's Fe dom i think he would be more social if he was and he's not the type to solve other people's emotional problems.
he's very very focused on performance and results, determined to show he is capable of holding responsibility and wanting to be treated with respect? tbh he sounds a lot like estj description. "driven" above all else. as someone who grew up in hierarchy (at the bottom of svt's age order with no same-age or younger members, and oldest of the family) he really internalized the ideas of responsibility and always looks for opportunities to prove himself (ofd 2 skiing episode) u can see how hard he works at danceology and svt choreo in general. and he doesn't have the crazy ideas that hoshi has that would point to Ne dom. i dont even necessarily see Si aux other than how much he cares about hierarchy (and maybe his attention to detail idk) but pleaseee do not ask me to explain what Ni aux actually looks like i simply do not know, but no one else sees it in him.
he's very defensive and always ready to clap back with a defense lmao this guy cannot be a Fe dom right.... he's so blunt. it makes sense for him to have Fi because he has to try so hard to suppress his own wishes and it's pretty obvious when he's unhappy about something (dino nugu aegi). but also his nickname is kpop's future.... i dont know if he's always looking at the past (Si) that seems out of character. but he does write these insanely long emotional messages in the group chat idk why he does that
lee chan, 2015: "i'm doing a good job with choreography, woozi hyung is doing a good job with producing and scoups is doing a good job with whatever it is that he does"
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